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10 months 2 weeks ago #506 by ahsansyed442
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I'm trying to model an MSW to a renewable jet pathway using FT. I see that there are RDF to various fuels and MSW to RDF, but I couldn't find any way to convert MSW to jet fuel (similar to the pathway in GREET). I also had questions about the way that landfill diversion credits are assigned - these are only included in the RDF pathway but not in any MSW pathways. 

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10 months 2 weeks ago #507 by doconnor
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To model a Msw to FT pathway directly there are a couple of steps to take.

1. Set the FT fuel properties on the Fuel Char sheet to match those of the SAF that you are producing. The energy and volumetric densities and the carbon content of the fuel are the important ones.

2. Set the RDF fuel properties on Fuel Char to be the same as the RDF and make sure that it is representative of your feedstock. The energy density is critical.

3. If the fuel processing information is included in the mass and energy information is included in the fuel production information then you can zero out the RDF stage. In column CA on the input sheet zero the electricity and all but 0.001 MJ of NG

4. Adjust the mass input in column CA so that the upstream emission for the SW to RDF pathway is zero except for the avoided emission.

5. With these changes the RDF to FTD pathway will become a MSW to SAF pathway.

6. The avoided emissions have three parameters that can be set. The first is the methane emissions from MSW from a landfill. This is cell F48, the default value is 90 g CH4/dry kg of MSW. The second is the renewable C content of the MSW, cell F44 (default is 0.70) and finally the fraction of methane avoidance that will be accepted in a regulatory system (F45).

The avoided methane emissions in column CA gets carried through to the FTD pathway and shows up as avoided emissions there.

I hope that this helps.

Don O'Connor

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10 months 4 days ago #510 by ahsansyed442
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Thanks for this. If the facility or project utilizes additional hydrogen (that does not come from the MSW), is there a way to account for that in the model?

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10 months 4 days ago #511 by doconnor
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The hydrogen consumption is entered on the Alt Fuel Production sheet. The pathway is in column E and hydrogen is n row 44.

The units are kg/litre.

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Don O'Connor

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9 months 3 weeks ago #512 by ahsansyed442
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Hello again - I have the energy density (MJ/kg of MSW) - how should I reflect this? Should I change the energy density in the fuel char tab of the RDF or the MSW? What impact does the input tab CA247 have on the calculations? I'm finding I can't zero this out and I can't increase it to reflect the energy density of the MSW I'm working with...

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9 months 3 weeks ago #513 by doconnor
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Your should use the energy density for the RDF value on the Fuel Char sheet.

To turn the RDF to FT pathway to a MSW to FT pathway, set CA 243 to zero and CAS 245 to 0.1.

Then adjust CA 247 until DY11 on the upstream emissions sheet is 0. A value of 95.4 will do it for the default, but the value will be different after you adjust the energy content of your RDF.

Don O'Connor

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2 months 2 weeks ago #588 by Li
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Hi Mr. Don O'Connor,

Follow on this topic (even though it's been a while), after doing the steps as you mentioned above:
1) input sheet --CA 243/244 are set to zero, CA245 NG with 0.001 MJ ,
2) adjusted CA 247 until DY11 on the upstream emissions sheet is 0, BTW right now the CA 247 is 95.44;
3) FTD in Fuel Char has been changed to FT biojet, especially kept eyes on the energy and volumetric densities and the carbon content of the fuel

So now the RDF-to-FT pathway has been set up to become MSW-to-SAF pathway.

My question is that ,in input sheet is there any need to change the E243/244/245/246 (those are zero by default) and to modify the E246 (it is 4.7 by default), or just leave those cells by default?

I was wondering why the electricity and NG are not needed in originally RDF-to-FT/currently MSW-to-SAF fuel pathway.

Looking forward to your clarification and help!

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2 months 2 weeks ago #597 by doconnor
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Most FT plant designs in the public domain are very large and they generate their own electricity and thermal energy requirements from the waste heat generated by the process, so the need for external electricity and NG is avoided.

The FT process is not very energy efficient so there is a lot of excess heat, especially when a resource like MSW is being gasified (again not very efficient).

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Don O'Connor

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2 months 1 week ago #603 by Li
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Thanks a lot, Don!

One quick question: do you think the RDF input(E247) in input tab should be varied by the different output, such as FT Diesel and FT SAF? Or in other word, is 4.7 (by default) can be suitable for both the FT Diesel pathway and FT SAF pathway?

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2 months 1 week ago #607 by doconnor
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As a default value it can be used for both cases.

The value could be adjusted if you have some better process design data for the two different scenarios.

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Don O'Connor

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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago #608 by Li
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Thanks so much, Don!

This might be a slight diversion from the topic, but I just wanted to confirm: if I consider the fuel pathway for UCO to HEFA SAF, if I zero out the cells from BD 243 to 248 (UCO to yellow grease processing input) in the input tab, will the YG to HEFA SAF be updated to direct UCO to HEFA SAF, and would the default values in CE 242 to 248 still be valid to use for UCO to HEFA SFA?

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Wen
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2 months 1 week ago #609 by doconnor
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Wen
You have to have a small input into the electricity or NG cells to avoid a div zero error but a very small number can be used there so that it has no impact on the results.

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Don O'Connor

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